A BRIEF INTERVIEW
WITH JOHN BOEHNER
by M. Mania
As we ring out the year 2013, I’m
delighted to be able to bring to you a brief interview with someone who was
very much in the news this year, and is likely to be in the news again next
year, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, John Boehner. The Speaker
and I met recently for a cup of coffee at a Fuddruckers Restaurant near his
home in Butler County, Ohio.
MM: Thank you so much for
making yourself available for this interview.
JB: Of course. Glad to do so.
Of course, I can’t give you much time.
MM: I understand.
JB: Is that your coffee or
mine?
MM: Uh, it’s yours. I’m having
tea.
JB: Oh. Okay.
MM: I wanted to start -
JB: Are we sharing these fries?
MM: Sure. That’s why I got a
large basket.
JB: Great. I’m just on the go
so much, it’s hard to get a bite sometimes.
MM: We can order in a minute.
JB: Alright.
MM: Now, I wanted to start by
asking you about the new poll that came out that shows a pretty marked
difference between Republicans and Democrats when it comes to believing in
evolution.
JB: Uh huh.
MM: The poll shows that the
percentage of Democrats and independent voters who believe in evolution has
pretty much held steady over the past five years at about 65 percent, whereas
the number of Republicans who believe in evolution has dropped from a majority,
54 percent, to a minority, just 43 percent, in the same five years.
JB: Is that a question?
MM: Well, the question is,
well, I guess I’d start by asking if you personally believe in evolution?
JB: I believe that people of
good faith can have different views on this issue.
MM: But do you believe in
evolution?
JB: As I said, I believe that
people of good faith can have different views.
MM: So is that a yes, or a no?
JB: I’ve answered your
question.
MM: So do you have any comments on how these numbers have
changed regarding Republicans?
JB: Not really. People of good
faith and all.
MM: But you do acknowledge that the numbers have
changed in the last five years?
JB: That’s what you say, isn’t
it?
MM: So, if the numbers have
changed over the last five years, couldn’t you say that the Republican view on
evolution has evolved over the past
five years?
JB: Now you’re just trying to
put words in my mouth.
MM: No, I’m –
Frankie (Fuddruckers Waitstaff):
Are you gentlemen ready to order now?
JB: I’m going to need a few
more minutes.
Frankie: Excellent. I’ll be
back then.
MM: Now then, I was asking if
you believe that the views of Republican voters on evolution have,
collectively, changed over the past five years.
JB: And I said that it’s
entirely possible and reasonable for you to say that, yes. Though I’m not too
thrilled with that word, collectively.
MM: And so, isn’t it reasonable
to say that another word for change, a synonym, could be evolution?
JB: Well, you could say that. I’m not saying that.
MM: Let me try a different
approach, okay? Have you, um, have you, personally, grown either physically or
intellectually since you were, say, five years old?
JB: What sort of a question is that?
MM: Just bear with me, please.
I think my follow up will make it all clear.
JB: Well, of course I’ve grown since I was five. I’m taller, have a deeper
voice, a deeper understanding of the world, and still think this is a silly
waste of time question.
MM: So, as you just stated, in your case, in your
personal experience, you have in fact
grown. And if we accept that growth could
include an element of change, and
that change could be a sort of
synonym for evolution –
JB: Is that a question, or a
statement?
MM: I’m just trying to get you
to see that you have, in fact, essentially admitted that you yourself have
personally evolved, and –
JB: Now you’re putting words in
my mouth again.
MM: So you don’t believe in evolution?
JB: I never said that.
MM: So you do believe in evolution?
JB: I never said that.
MM: So could you, would you, state what you believe?
Frankie: Ready to order now?
JB: Yes. I’ll have the Wild
Boar Burger, with pepper jack cheese – to
go.
Frankie: Would you like fries
with that?
JB: No. I had some already.
Frankie: Great! That’ll be
ready in just a few minutes.
MM: Do you think that being
perceived as anti-science will hurt Republicans in the 2014 midterm elections?
JB: I didn’t say that.
MM: I didn’t say you said it. I
was asking a question.
JB: And I’ve answered all your
questions.
MM: So does this mean –
JB: It’s been a pleasure
talking with you. Best wishes to you for a happy New Year.